tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-257904407708870210.post6586377665129906601..comments2023-10-03T22:10:48.289+08:00Comments on Ecumenical Buddhism, Daoism, & Confucianism: The Noahide Laws: The 7 Laws of NoahAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13903566298883375039noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-257904407708870210.post-17323591309642650102010-11-07T06:21:31.188+08:002010-11-07T06:21:31.188+08:00"In the Second Temple period, Bәnei-Noakh (no..."In the Second Temple period, Bәnei-Noakh (non-Jews according to the Biblical definition) weren‘t even permitted to interact in any way with Jews. They couldn‘t eat with Jews, socialize with Jews... or study Torâh with Jews!<br />Geir is very different from Bәnei-Noakh. A geir was defined in Biblical times as a non-Jew proselyte, recognized by the Beit-Din as worthy to be admitted into the Jewish community for the purpose of non-selectively learning, and putting into practice, the rest of Torah (‘Acts‘ 15.21).<br />Just as all horses are animals but not all animals are horses, so, too, all geirim are non-Jews but not all non-Jews are geirim. Geirim were included in the Talmudic definition of Israel (one of ten categories, though not Jews). Consequently, geirim have a place in ha-Olam ha-ba.<br />Bәnei-Noakh — ALL other "non-Jews" — aren‘t among the Talmud categories included in Israel. Therefore, also consequently, nowhere does Torâh grant a place in ha-Olam ha-ba to this all-inclusive category. The only promise Torâh makes to Bәnei-Noakh is "no more floods"!<br />During this transition phase, geirim were — obviously — semi-observant non-Jews (proselyte disciples who hadn‘t yet been converted), at various stages of progress in their learning and practice. That‘s why geirim are described at various stages of Torâh-observance that, otherwise, would seem contradictory.<br />Only in recent, post-medieval, times have these definitions been corrupted, mostly through ignorance of Biblical practices and definitions, to supposedly include non-Jews who keep only the Seven Noakhide Laws.<br />The Seven Noakhide Laws were only the starting point, never the end point."<br /><br />Excerpted from Bnei Noach section of the History Museum at www.netzarim.co.il<br /><br />Many Bnei Noach are former Xtians that have understood that Jzeus can not be the Jewish Mashiach and that somewhere in Torah and history is the answer. The Netzarim have documented that the first century Jew, long thought to have created a new non-Judaism, was in fact the Mashiach, a Torah observant Ribi, an ordained leader in the Jewish court.<br /><br />Find out more at www.netzarim.co.ilEliyahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09550781249705011630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-257904407708870210.post-80328817310015372872010-11-07T06:19:18.685+08:002010-11-07T06:19:18.685+08:00In the Second Temple period, Bәnei-Noakh (non-Jews...In the Second Temple period, Bәnei-Noakh (non-Jews according to the Biblical definition) weren‘t even permitted to interact in any way with Jews. They couldn‘t eat with Jews, socialize with Jews... or study Torâh with Jews!<br /><br />Geir is very different from Bәnei-Noakh. A geir was defined in Biblical times as a non-Jew proselyte, recognized by the Beit-Din as worthy to be admitted into the Jewish community for the purpose of non-selectively learning, and putting into practice, the rest of Torah (‘Acts‘ 15.21).<br /><br />Just as all horses are animals but not all animals are horses, so, too, all geirim are non-Jews but not all non-Jews are geirim. Geirim were included in the Talmudic definition of Israel (one of ten categories, though not Jews). Consequently, geirim have a place in ha-Olam ha-ba.<br /><br />Bәnei-Noakh — ALL other "non-Jews" — aren‘t among the Talmud categories included in Israel. Therefore, also consequently, nowhere does Torâh grant a place in ha-Olam ha-ba to this all-inclusive category. The only promise Torâh makes to Bәnei-Noakh is "no more floods"!<br /><br />Moreover, the Noakhide Laws were authored by the Nәtzârim Beit-Din, being first recorded in ‘Acts‘ 15.20ff ("Noachide Laws," Encyclopedia Judaica, 12.1190).<br /><br />The Nәtzârim Beit-Din were the original Beit-Din who defined the Noakhide Laws as the minimum threshhold requirements to admit a proselyte, thereby enabling him or her to study Torâh with Jews, in the Jewish community, and begin the transition of learning and becoming non-selectively Torâh-observant.<br /><br />During this transition phase, geirim were — obviously — semi-observant non-Jews (proselyte disciples who hadn‘t yet been converted), at various stages of progress in their learning and practice. That‘s why geirim are described at various stages of Torâh-observance that, otherwise, would seem contradictory.<br /><br />Only in recent, post-medieval, times have these definitions been corrupted, mostly through ignorance of Biblical practices and definitions, to supposedly include non-Jews who keep only the Seven Noakhide Laws.<br /><br />The Seven Noakhide Laws were only the starting point, never the end point.<br /><br />Excerpted from Bnei Noach section of the History Museum at www.netzarim.co.il<br /><br />Many Bnei Noach are former Xtians that have understood that Jzeus can not be the Jewish Mashiach and that somewhere in Torah and history is the answer. The Netzarim have documented that the first century Jew, long thought to have created a new non-Judaism, was in fact the Mashiach, a Torah observant Ribi, an ordained leader in the Jewish court.<br /><br />Find out more at www.netzarim.co.ilEliyahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09550781249705011630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-257904407708870210.post-30161233437323614402010-11-07T06:17:52.314+08:002010-11-07T06:17:52.314+08:00The Hebrew term that is used to describe those who...The Hebrew term that is used to describe those who have a portion in ha-Olam ha-ba is geir, never in ante-Medieval literature "Bәnei-Noakh."<br /><br />According to Talmud and all Judaic sources prior to Talmud, "Bәnei-Noakh" described ALL non-Jews; those who didn‘t keep the Noakhide Laws as well as those who did!!! At no point were the sons of Noakh — Bәnei-Noakh (= ALL mankind) — declared no longer sons of Noakh unless they kept the Noakhide Laws.<br /><br />In the Second Temple period, Bәnei-Noakh (non-Jews according to the Biblical definition) weren‘t even permitted to interact in any way with Jews. They couldn‘t eat with Jews, socialize with Jews... or study Torâh with Jews!<br /><br />Geir is very different from Bәnei-Noakh. A geir was defined in Biblical times as a non-Jew proselyte, recognized by the Beit-Din as worthy to be admitted into the Jewish community for the purpose of non-selectively learning, and putting into practice, the rest of Torah (‘Acts‘ 15.21).<br /><br />Just as all horses are animals but not all animals are horses, so, too, all geirim are non-Jews but not all non-Jews are geirim. Geirim were included in the Talmudic definition of Israel (one of ten categories, though not Jews). Consequently, geirim have a place in ha-Olam ha-ba.<br /><br />Bәnei-Noakh — ALL other "non-Jews" — aren‘t among the Talmud categories included in Israel. Therefore, also consequently, nowhere does Torâh grant a place in ha-Olam ha-ba to this all-inclusive category. The only promise Torâh makes to Bәnei-Noakh is "no more floods"!<br /><br />Moreover, the Noakhide Laws were authored by the Nәtzârim Beit-Din, being first recorded in ‘Acts‘ 15.20ff ("Noachide Laws," Encyclopedia Judaica, 12.1190).<br /><br />The Nәtzârim Beit-Din were the original Beit-Din who defined the Noakhide Laws as the minimum threshhold requirements to admit a proselyte, thereby enabling him or her to study Torâh with Jews, in the Jewish community, and begin the transition of learning and becoming non-selectively Torâh-observant.<br /><br />During this transition phase, geirim were — obviously — semi-observant non-Jews (proselyte disciples who hadn‘t yet been converted), at various stages of progress in their learning and practice. That‘s why geirim are described at various stages of Torâh-observance that, otherwise, would seem contradictory.<br /><br />Only in recent, post-medieval, times have these definitions been corrupted, mostly through ignorance of Biblical practices and definitions, to supposedly include non-Jews who keep only the Seven Noakhide Laws.<br /><br />The Seven Noakhide Laws were only the starting point, never the end point.<br /><br />Excerpted from Bnei Noach section of the History Museum at www.netzarim.co.il<br /><br />Many Bnei Noach are former Xtians that have understood that Jzeus can not be the Jewish Mashiach and that somewhere in Torah and history is the answer. The Netzarim have documented that the first century Jew, long thought to have created a new non-Judaism, was in fact the Mashiach, a Torah observant Ribi, an ordained leader in the Jewish court.<br /><br />Find out more at www.netzarim.co.ilEliyahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09550781249705011630noreply@blogger.com